Who are the suppressor dragons? They're an archetype composed of 4 monsters, one for each element (remember that in YGO elements are EARTH, WIND, FIRE and WATER. All are LV7, the sum of their ATK and DEF is always 4600 and have got similar effect. Basically:
*Name* LV7 *corresponding attribute*/Dragon ATK+DEF=4600
You can banish 2 Dragon-Type or *corresponding attribute* monsters from your hand or Graveyard, except this card; Special Summon this card from your hand or Graveyard. During your opponent's End Phase, if this card was Special Summoned: Return it to the hand. You can discard this card and 1 other *corresponding attribute* monster to *so-called discarding effect, different for each one*. When this card is banished: Add 1 *corresponding attribute* Dragon-Type monster from your Deck to your hand. You can only use 1 "*name*" effect per turn, and only once that turn.
Great, right? Well, you didn't read their discarding effect, still.
Redox, the EARTH one is a walking Reborn for your grave, no other restrictions. You can even summon himself, if Konami is ok with discarding first and then targeting the monster. Poor stats, though, 1600 ATK and 3000 DEF
Blaster, the FIRE one is a walking raigeki break, with no other restrictions. Discard him and a fire and destroy one card. Doesn't trigger Handmaiden, sadly, but it could set-up the grave for an Handmaiden mill and destroy a nasty backrow. Probably the second with better stats, 2800/1800. Great attack to run over anything, DEF good enough to block Maestroke Flip and Attack, if he doesn't have other monsters.
Tidal, the WATER one is a walking foolish burial. Probably the one with the worst effect but more applications, since it'll give Mermails a good discard, eventually can be summoned to XYZ with Megalo into Abyssgaios or Drago-SAC, a monster that's receiving lots of love, recently. 2600/2000, probably the better stats among them. Basically, the ATK is good enough to run over pretty much everything Blaster would run over, but his DEF makes him better against Maestroke. However, you should realize based on your deck and your playstyle which one has got the better stats for you.
Tempest, the WIND one is a walking...uhm...really, a walking itself. Discard it with a WIND monster and get another Dragon from your deck. That's quite of broken, isn't it? Dragunities will have tons and tons of fun with this card. Being LV7 helps more in Drago-SAC based decks or even standard Beastcraft decks. The deck where it shines the most, however, is Dragunities, as I said earlier, since it can search pretty much every combo pieces for Atum Dragunities and, in combo with Ravine, it can search REALLY everything you need. 2400/2200. Oh well, at least it suicides into Laggia. You won't summon it the most of the times, or, if you do, you'll XYZ him in the 90% of cases.
A question lots of people asked me is "can they work together?". My main response was "they aren't out on DN, I won't test them till that time. When they will, I'll try to confirm my theory where they could, even though not as a really competitive deck".
Basically, throw in some remotion, Necroface, GS and Dimensional Alchemist, and they'll be discard fodders for themselves, eventually summoning them all back and XYZ, while RFDD (Return from the Different Dimension) works as our own Rekindling.
Engine:
3 Redox
3 Blaster
3 Tempest
0/3 Tidal
1 Necroface
0/1 REDMD
3 Treasured Sword of the Seven Stars
3 Gold Sarcophagus
0-2 D.D.R.
0/1 RFDD
You can splash this engine pretty much anywhere.
Heraldic Beasts want to be in the grave, and they want discard fodder.
Plants, do I even need to talk?
Skill, well, this will negate their return effect, and on the field they effectively don't have any useful effect. Redox can reborn Barbaros, and the latter is a target for Treasured Sword (TSSS)
And I'm keeping one for another review, because I like it more than the other, even though the Plant one has access to easy Shooting.
However, I myself think that those monsters should be used on their own. Redox is great in both Rock Stun (or Skill Rock Stun) and Gem-Knight, other than Heraldic Beast (triggers Leo, and eventually Summons him back from the grave); Tidal is great in Atlanteans and Mermails, discards like hell, and I'm looking for good WATER monsters for Heraldic Beasts to use its effect to send Leo to the grave and trigger him, even though it could not be needed; Tempest has Dragunities, R7 WIND Abuse, and lots of uses for searches; Blaster can be used in Lavals (meh) or in Fire King to destroy themselves and use their effect, and Qilin could eventually send it to the grave to have another easily accessible Beater that will return to your hand to use its effect, and, even though I never played Fire King, I think they can access Skill Drain without losing much or even anything, and that's just great.
TSSS is just awesome, a +1 if you use it on a Suppressor, or a +0 on other monsters. If one, a random one, of those dragons had an use while in hand, I'd play 1 TSSS and 2 of the named dragon, even though it's pretty risky. Or I could play 1 TSSS, 1 Dragon and a monster searchable via that Dragon LV8 for Trade-In. More risky than the one before, but more useful, and Magical Mallet COULD help shuffling back the searchable Dragon. But I don't know, they just conflict too much with the FTK mindset.
Gold Sarcophagus is just way too good, on Necroface on first turn it could plus you so much that you couldn't even think about it. Assuming you just drew the first 6 cards of your 40-cards deck, and that one of those was GS, use GS on Necroface (thinning by another card). Milling 5 cards has high possibilities of banishing at least one of those 12 Dragons (91%, approximatively, thanks to Fabio Borges), and, if you drew into Necroface, you could just banish a Dragon and make it a +1 (search with the dragon+GS' Dragon-GS).
I, as one, see lots of power in those monsters, and lots of hidden uses that I won't discover till they'll be out on DN, assuming I have a good enough internet connection to log into DN without making it crash.
That's All Folks.
P.s. I LOVE Tempest, can't wait for it to be on DN.
Actually, to find the probability of banishing one or more suppressors from turkey 1 gold sarc + Necroface, you'd need to use a hypergeometric calculator to solve that since you need to take into account every possible combination of 5 cards you can banish. With a 40-card deck and 12 suppressors, a turn 1 gold sarc + Necroface yields about a 91% chance of banishing at least one suppressor, assuming that you didnt draw any.
ReplyDeleteYup, that's it, I knew it was impossible that it was that low.
DeleteAs a logic maths lover I could say that the number of possible banishing you can get, assuming you drew none, should be 33x32x31x30x29, but I don't know how to calculate the possibilities of banishing a suppressor. Or, TBH, I think I know how, but not exactly, since the concept is there, but the result I get is way higher than 33x32x31x30x29. I'm doing some researchs later, eventually I'll post something about it. I always loved percentage and possibilities, but never studied them at school, so I'll have to self-study them.
Oh, it was fast, I found a Hypergeometric calculator online and learnt fastly how to use it.
DeleteThe probability is 0.91426079482253, thus 91% approximatively.
Now I'm looking for the specific calculations, just for learning reasons.
Thank you.